Years ago, I had read comments about SAFe and viewed a video that Dean Leffingwell had done. The emphasis was on Lean ideas with Agile (Scrum) ideas. I thought it sounded good. Several years later at an Agiloe Alliance conference, I attended Agile Stalwarts sessions where Ron Jeffries and Chet Hendrickson invited well-known figures in the Agile community to sit and answer audience questions in the round. When Dean Leffingwell was speaker at one session and I had a chance to ask a question, I asked him why he felt there was so much negative reaction tom SAFe (as by then there had been). I expected him to talk about how those fundamental ideas I encountered earlier might have been viewed by others. Insteads, he talked about SAFe being "a market disrupter." That is, he spoke about commercial competition and how SAFe was likely taking business away from others. Now, while that may have been true, I tried to follow up with a more technically focused questions, but was disappointed that what he seemed to want to talk about was market competition and not the value SAFe brough that other approaches might be missing. I started losing interest in SAFe at that point and haven't looked back.